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Mike Mullane

Nasa Space Shuttle Astronaut – Expert on Safety, Leadership, & Teamwork

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Mike Mullane has ridden a rocket into space three times. He likes to open his talks by asking the audience who they’d want holding their life in their hands if they were the one strapped to that rocket. He was part of the first group of Space Shuttle astronauts NASA chose back in 1978. When he left NASA in 1990, he retired from the Air Force too, as a colonel. These days he talks to companies and government groups about how good teams work, and about safety. His stories come from Vietnam and the shuttle program, and from what went wrong with Challenger and Columbia.

Mike Mullane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, delivers keynotes and virtual sessions on teamwork, leadership, workplace safety and the “normalization of deviance.”

Mike Mullane keynote programs

  • Countdown To Teamwork: guarding against the normalization of deviance, plus responsibility, trust and courageous leadership of yourself and your team
  • Countdown To Safety: why nobody on a crew should be a “safety passenger,” and how teams stop sliding into lower standards
  • The Lighter Side of Spaceflight: what launch feels like, life in orbit and, yes, how the space toilet works

Full program outlines are in the Topics tab.

Best fit for

  • Safety conferences and safety stand-downs
  • Leadership retreats and management meetings
  • Sales conferences and partner events
  • Oil and gas, energy and construction events
  • Government and association conferences
  • Opening or closing keynotes

About Mike Mullane

His full name is Richard Michael Mullane, but everybody calls him Mike. His dad was a B-17 flight engineer in the Pacific when Mike was born in Wichita Falls, Texas, in 1945. The family ended up in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and that’s where Mike grew up. When Sputnik went up, space travel stopped being science fiction for him. By the late 1950s he was building his own rockets and launching them out in the desert near his house.

He graduated from West Point in 1967 and married Donna a week later. Two years on, he was in Vietnam. Flying out of Tan Son Nhut Air Base in 1969, he sat in the back seat of an RF-4C Phantom as the weapon systems officer and racked up 134 combat missions. Four years in England came next. After that he went back to school for a master’s in aeronautical engineering at the Air Force Institute of Technology, which he finished in 1975. Later he got through the Air Force Flight Test Engineer Course at Edwards Air Force Base as well.

In January 1978, NASA called to say he’d made the cut as a mission specialist. His first ride was STS-41-D on August 30, 1984, which also happened to be Discovery’s first trip to space. The next two were on Atlantis, STS-27 in 1988 and STS-36 in 1990, and both were classified missions for the Defense Department. All told, he logged 356 hours in space. Along the way he earned the Distinguished Flying Cross, the Legion of Merit and NASA’s Space Flight Medal. The International Space Hall of Fame later inducted him.

He wrote about all of it in Riding Rockets: The Outrageous Tales of a Space Shuttle Astronaut, which came out in 2006. He doesn’t go easy on the astronaut corps in it. The New York Times reviewed the book, Jon Stewart brought him on The Daily Show to talk about it, and in 2010 Barnes & Noble picked it for its summer reading list. He writes for kids too. His picture book Liftoff! An Astronaut’s Dream won awards, and Do Your Ears Pop in Space? is packed with 500 other surprising questions about space travel. For a while he hosted Inside Space on the USA Network.

Mike has always loved the mountains, and he still puts in close to 500 miles of backpacking a year out West. Turning 60 didn’t slow that down. He stood on top of Mt. Kilimanjaro on July 23, 2010, and he’s climbed Mt. Rainier and forty of Colorado’s 14,000-foot peaks too. He and Donna live in Albuquerque. Their three kids are grown, and there are six grandchildren now.

Why organizations book Mike Mullane

He makes the normalization of deviance stick. Mike walks through how NASA kept finding O-ring damage on returned boosters, kept flying anyway, and slowly stopped seeing it as a problem until Challenger. Then he shows how Columbia repeated the pattern 17 years later, and how the same slide can happen on any job site.

He owns up to his own mistake. In a fighter jet years ago, he saw something unsafe and kept quiet, figuring the pilot with more flying time knew best. The jet went down and both men had to eject. He uses that story to show why nobody on a crew gets to be a passenger when it comes to safety.

You don’t need a science background. His programs are never technical. He mixes NASA video and slides with plenty of humor, so frontline workers and executives can sit in the same room and both get it.

The ideas outlast the day. After he spoke at Suncor, staff who had missed him emailed asking for his notes. At one ExxonMobil site, close to 70% of all the feedback comments were about him.

If you’re planning a full program, read these tips for planning a corporate event.

Who books Mike Mullane?

Intel, Chevron, ExxonMobil and NCR have all sent back feedback on his talks. So have Suncor Energy, Encana, the Alberta Government and the Construction Owners’ Association of Alberta.

At Suncor, people liked his idea of courageous self-leadership enough to work it into their own breakout reports. Encana’s feedback forms rated him the highlight of the day. Some of the events he’s keynoted also had George H. W. Bush, Colin Powell and Tom Peters on the program.

How to book Mike Mullane through MCP Talent Agency

  1. Send your date and city through the booking request form, along with your audience size. If the phone is easier, the number is 1-800-693-6665.
  2. Tell MCP Talent Agency what the day is for. Countdown To Safety is the one for safety meetings. Teamwork and leadership events usually get Countdown To Teamwork, and The Lighter Side of Spaceflight works when the room just wants a good time. Whichever one you choose, Mike trims and adjusts it to fit your agenda.
  3. Once you’ve signed the quote and contract, you’re mostly done. MCP Talent Agency then sorts out travel and the AV for his video and slides with Mike.

Travels from

Mike flies out of Albuquerque, New Mexico, and takes bookings all over the U.S. and Canada. If you’d like to compare a few names, browse more workplace safety speakers, teamwork speakers, military speakers and New Mexico talent.

Fee to book Mike Mullane

MCP Talent Agency lists Mike in the $7,501 to $12,500 range, in Canadian dollars.

Travel from Albuquerque gets added for in-person events. The date and format of your event shift the final figure too. See other speakers in this price range.

Check Mike Mullane’s availability

Call 1-800-693-6665 or email info@mcptalent.com to see if Mike is open on your date. The online request form works too.

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Videos

Countdown To Teamwork 
Countdown To Teamwork is a team-building/leadership program in which Colonel Mullane motivates the audience on their practice of these fundamentals of teamwork: guarding against a “normalization of deviance”, responsibility, trust, courageous self-leadership, and courageous team leadership. This program is applicable to all teams everywhere. It has thrilled and inspired personnel in sales, manufacturing, production, safety…in ALL areas of company operations. It has been cheered by managers and blue-collar workers, by union and non-union teams. It has been enjoyed by men and women from every corner of corporate America…from perfume sales teams to nuclear power plant safety teams; from insurance company teams to medical equipment manufacturers; from beverage producers to record label teams.

Countdown To Teamwork is more than just a motivational and learning tool on the topics of teamwork and leadership. It is also an extraordinarily entertaining program. (Mike’s programs are NEVER technical.) Colonel Mullane mixes his serious messages with hilarious never-before-heard astronaut stories and remarkable NASA video. The audience members will alternately find themselves roaring with laughter and sitting on the edge of their seats in suspense.

Countdown has been extremely successful at exceeding the expectations of meeting planners. You will get a sense of that success by visiting the testimonials page. Another indication of the popularity of Countdown To Teamwork is this fact…Astronaut Mullane has been a keynote speaker at events where other speakers included former President George Bush Sr., General Colin Powell and Tom Peters.

Countdown To Teamwork can be edited to fit the agenda of any event. Mullane’s presentation is augmented with a PowerPoint program that includes spectacular video and slides.

Countdown To Teamwork Abstract
Using video projected as part of his PowerPoint program, Colonel Mullane opens with a dramatic narration of a shuttle countdown and launch, leading the audience to this question, “If it was YOU on that rocket, what type of a team would you want holding your life in their hands?” Obviously you would want a team that’s the BEST!

Astronaut Mullane then establishes that teams achieve greatness when they practice certain fundamentals and he uses his experiences as an astronaut and Air Force flyer to develop these fundamentals: 

Guarding against a “Normalization of Deviance”
Normalization of deviance is a long term phenomenon in which individuals or teams repeatedly accept a lower standard of performance until that lower standard becomes the “norm”. Usually, the acceptance of the lower standard occurs because the individual/team is under pressure (budget, schedule, etc.) and perceives it will be too difficult to adhere to the expected standard. Their intention may be to revert back to the higher standard when this period of pressure passes. However, by “getting away” with the deviation, it is likely they will do the same thing when the same stressful circumstances arise again. Over time, the individual/team fails to see their actions as deviant. 

Mullane uses the Challenger tragedy to make this point. Under tremendous schedule and budget pressures and over multiple launches, the NASA team accepted a lower standard of performance on the solid rocket booster O-rings until that lower standard became the “norm”. By the dawn of Challenger, the NASA team had become so comfortable with seeing occasional O-ring damage and getting away with it, the original standard, in which ANY O-ring damage was defined as intolerable deviance, was marginalized. Disaster resulted. 

The Columbia tragedy is another example of normalization of deviance and Mullane discusses the salient issue of that tragedy…that the NASA team grew so comfortable accepting occasional “hits” on the winged-orbiter by foam shedding from the gas tank, they lost sight of the criticality of the deviance.

Teams maintain their high standards of performance by “planning the work and working the plan”; connecting the dots (to insure multiple problems aren’t just symptoms of a single normalization of deviance problem); and by considering the instincts of team members in the decision making process. With Challenger, some engineers had a gut feeling that an O-ring disaster loomed, but management refused to react to instincts. Leaders should investigate instinctual fears to determine if, in fact, they are rooted in reality.

Responsibility
The power of a team resides in the uniqueness of the team members, in their diversity of life experiences and insights. Everyone has a sacred responsibility to get their unique perspectives on the table for the leadership to consider. Leaders have a sacred responsibility to empower the voices of their people so they can gain access to those unique perspectives. “One person with courage forms a majority”, is a quote by former President Andrew Jackson that Mullane will use in this discussion. He also uses an example of how a medical doctor at NASA (not an engineer or astronaut) had the best idea for a shuttle bailout system. This is an example of how great ideas can exist in the minds of people who are not considered the experts on a particular issue and this is why team leaders need to work on empowering every voice on their teams.

Trust
Trust is achieved through “need” fulfillment. We all look to our leaders to fulfill these fundamental needs: to be treated with respect as an individual; to get honest recognition for our work; to have a voice in matters that concern us. When leaders fulfill these needs, the bonds of trust strengthen and through this trust the true potential of the team is realized. Mullane draws from his experiences as a combat flyer in Vietnam to illustrate how need fulfillment by combat team leaders builds trust and through this trust the warrior potential of the combat team is realized. The same warrior potential exists in corporate teams and leaders can unleash this potential by identifying and fulfilling the needs of their people.

Courageous Self-Leadership 
Mullane uses his life story to develop these points on self-leadership: self-leaders set very lofty goals, stay focused on what’s important, and constantly do their best at every task. Mullane develops this philosophy of self-leadership: “Success isn’t a destination. It’s a continuous life journey of working toward successively higher goals.”

Courageous Team Leadership 
Again, Mullane uses aspects of his life story to develop this point…that truly courageous team leaders maximize the potential of their people through this leadership philosophy: “I want YOU, to be more successful than ME.” 

Most audiences are shocked to learn how ordinary Mullane was. People assume because he is an astronaut now, that in his youth, he was a super-child, destined for great success. That is not the case. Mullane uses slides and video to prove he wasn’t a child genius. He wasn’t a sports star. He wasn’t popular. He didn’t date the homecoming queen. Yet he realized a lifetime dream. His success occurred, as is does for all of us, because of leaders (parents, teachers, scout masters, bosses, etc.) who didn’t see him as he was, but looked past that to his potential and worked to develop that potential through this courageous leadership philosophy, “I want YOU, to be more successful than ME”. 

Countdown To Teamwork is remarkably inspirational. The audience will come away from the program with a renewed sense of their potential and the potential of their teams.

The Lighter Side of Spaceflight Overview
In his program, The Lighter Side of Spaceflight, Astronaut Mike Mullane will take the audience on a uniquely revealing, captivating and hilarious space journey. Using spectacular video and slides he will answer everybody’s space questions: What does a shuttle launch feel like?…How does an astronaut deal with the incredible fear of launch?…How do you sleep, bathe, eat, drink, etc.?….What do you see from space?…And, of course, he will answer the top two questions that astronauts are ever asked:

Number 1: How does the space toilet work? (When the audience hears how astronauts train to use the toilet they will be convulsed with laughter.)…and…

Number 2: Have astronauts seen any UFOs or aliens?

The answers to these questions and many, many more are lavishly wrapped with inside, hilarious stories and supported with amazing video. The audience will not only be thoroughly entertained by The Lighter Side of Spaceflight, but will also feel privileged to have been given an insight into the astronaut experience that few people ever get to experience.

Countdown To Safety
In his program, “Countdown To Safety”, Astronaut Mullane delivers a powerful message on the individual’s role in keeping themselves and their team’s safe in hazardous environments.  Mullane introduces this subject with a recount of his own near-death experience in a fighter jet, when he failed to speak up about an unsafe situation.  He assumed another crewmember, with more flying time, “knew best” about the safety of their operations.   In other words, at a critical moment in a hazardous operation, Mullane surrendered his responsibility for safety to someone else.  He became a “safety passenger”.  The result was his (and the pilot’s) narrow escape from death during their ejection from the crashing jet.  The destruction of a multi-million dollar plane might have been avoided if Mullane had maintained his “safety presence” and voiced his assessment on the dangers of the pilot’s decision.  Instead, he assumed he didn’t “count”, that the pilot knew best.

Mullane continues this thread: that each individual brings to their team a unique perspective on safety.  Only when every person’s perspective is available for analysis can a team be truly safe.  When it comes to safety, everybody counts.  Safety is not management’s responsibility or a supervisor’s responsibility or the safety officer’s responsibility.  It is EVERYBODY’S responsibility.  Never be a “safety passenger”.

Another significant message within Mullane’s “Countdown To Safety” program is his discussion on “Normalization of Deviance”.  Astronaut Mullane uses the space shuttle Challenger disaster to define this term, its safety consequences, and how individuals and teams can defend themselves from the phenomenon.   

Challenger was the result of a failure of a booster rocket O-ring seal.  Viewers will be shocked to know this failure was predicted:  “It is my honest and very real fear that if we do not take immediate action to solve the problem, with the O-ring having the number one priority, then we stand in jeopardy of losing a flight along with all the launch pad facilities.” (From a NASA-contractor memo dated six months prior to Challenger).  

When a burn-damaged O-ring (a criticality 1 deviance) was first observed following the second shuttle mission, NASA, under enormous schedule pressure, convinced themselves the problem could be fixed with minor modifications to booster assembly procedures and that a grounding the fleet (required for a criticality 1 deviance) was not necessary.   When the next several missions flew without O-ring anomalies, the correctness of the decision to continue operations was reinforced.  However, over the following several years, more cases of O-ring sealing problems were observed in the returned boosters but with each successful flight the false feedback that it was safe to continue flight operations was strengthened.  In other words, the absence of something bad happening was being falsely interpreted as an indication that the team’s actions were safe when, in fact, it was mere random chance that a disaster hadn’t occurred.  The team had gotten away with accepting a criticality 1 deviance so many times, the deviance had been normalized into the team’s decision-making process.  Challenger was a “predictable surprise”.   

After dramatically defining “Normalization of Deviance”, Astronaut Mullane continues with an explanation of how individuals and teams can defeat this dangerous phenomenon through these practices:  recognizing one’s vulnerability to it; making it a religion to “plan the work and work the plan”; considering one’s instincts; and, archiving and periodically reviewing near-misses and disasters so the corporate memory never fades.  (Mullane explains that the loss of the space shuttle Columbia…17 years after Challenger…was a repeat of “Normalization of Deviance”.  NASA’s corporate memory had faded over those 17 years.)   

The messages delivered in “Countdown To Safety” are reinforced with rarely seen NASA video and slides.  The program is hard-hitting, fast paced and, in places, very humorous.  It is certain to open the eyes of every viewer to their individual criticality to team safety.

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